SAS Institute Reviews

Updated 18 Sep 2020

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  1. Helpful (2)

    "A technology to make impact"

    5.0
    • Work/Life Balance
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    • Compensation and Benefits
    • Senior Management
    Current Employee - Systems Engineer in Sydney
    Recommends
    Positive Outlook
    Disapproves of CEO

    I have been working at SAS Institute full-time for more than 3 years

    Pros

    New modern technology, Enterprise solutions that are scalable, Focus on deployment and operational analytics, Focus on outcomes and value, data4good, lots of opportunity to learn and grow

    Cons

    Management focus heavily on sales, less focus on delivery and follow through

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  2. Helpful (5)

    "Living in the past glory"

    1.0
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    • Senior Management
    Current Employee - Senior Account Executive in Sydney
    Doesn't Recommend
    Negative Outlook
    Disapproves of CEO

    I have been working at SAS Institute full-time for more than 5 years

    Pros

    SAS has some great people and technology.

    Cons

    SAS lacks competitive commercial models for its technology which is still firmly based on on-premise tools/solutions. Management continue to dream about million dollar deals while the competition is acquiring their market share selling SaaS solutions at fractions of a cent. The annuity stream of software renewals is just irresistible to let go of for the owners of the business, the fact that customers get nothing for their money except the right to use the software is simply audacious. No value add and no updates. If you want some new features you'll need to buy new software. Cost cutting is hitting hard and the appointment of new management (if I can call it that) in Australia will most certainly lead to even more pain for SAS. Culture used to be awesome but that too is being driven out by the new management.

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  3. Helpful (11)

    "Self congratulatory in its underperformance"

    3.0
    • Work/Life Balance
    • Culture & Values
    • Career Opportunities
    • Compensation and Benefits
    • Senior Management
    Current Employee - Systems Engineer 
    Positive Outlook
    No Opinion of CEO

    I have been working at SAS Institute full-time for more than a year

    Pros

    Excellent conditions for diminishing the assembly of a promising team to a conceited collection of self praising individuals. If obsequious and ingratiating are your go to forms of leveling up, this is the organisation for you. It's like I got into a time machine and went to the 80's. Might be worth it just for the out of body experience of living through a totally ridiculous situation for 2020. There are a lot worse companies , and a lot better. This one is squarely average but you will be frustrated if you are gen y type A. People are nice in a naive way. Helpful in a self promotion way as long as the status quo is maintained. Plenty of opportunity to shape this company for those who enjoy a unique challenge. Technology is worthy. People are genuinely well intending albeit en masse, misguided.

    Cons

    The symptoms of organisational neglect are exposed through the short sited, and insecure steppings of a heavily biased proportion of employees promoted by tenure. Majority use of inward looking feedback for self improvement likened to the blind leading the blind. Humility is painfully and publicly exhibited by our out of touch leadership team while leaving high performers disenchanted for their dreams of resolve and practicality. They scramble to obtain credibility while failing to discern it. I find the attitude completely lacking in energy , and innovation.

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  4. "SAS Marketing ANZ"

    4.0
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    • Culture & Values
    • Career Opportunities
    • Compensation and Benefits
    • Senior Management
    Current Employee - Marketing 
    Recommends
    Neutral Outlook
    Disapproves of CEO

    I have been working at SAS Institute full-time for more than a year

    Pros

    Good work life balance Good smart people Perks

    Cons

    Old fashioned Lane cove office in the middle of nowhere Not growing US global focused

  5. Helpful (5)

    "Becoming irrelevant"

    3.0
    • Work/Life Balance
    • Culture & Values
    • Career Opportunities
    • Compensation and Benefits
    • Senior Management
    Current Employee - Systems Engineer in Sydney
    Doesn't Recommend
    Negative Outlook
    Disapproves of CEO

    I have been working at SAS Institute full-time for more than 10 years

    Pros

    Great benefits, competitive remuneration, plenty of learning opportunities, and generous rewards and recognition scheme

    Cons

    Products are released before they are ready, with far too many defects. Product management is not good at listening to feedback from the field on what improvements are needed. Struggling to make the transition to the cloud - the SAS Viya platform is still not cloud native after promising this when the platform was released 3 years ago. Strategy to counter the rise of open source analytics does not appear to be working as most data scientists under the age of 40 have no interest in using SAS and would rather stick to Python, R, Spark, etc. or vendor tools that sit on top of them. Very poor services capability to help customers achieve business outcomes on the products - professional services is predominantly focused on installing, configuring and walking away. Key capability areas that SAS was once well regarded in (data management and BI) have been under-invested in to the point where the organisation appears to have literally given up competing.

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  6. Helpful (6)

    "Toxic and getting more irrelevant with time"

    1.0
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    • Senior Management
     
    Neutral Outlook
    Disapproves of CEO

    I worked at SAS Institute

    Pros

    SAS has a long term loyal client base and loyal capable staff. They have a reputation with their clients of providing solid solutions.

    Cons

    Very old on premise technology, high cost of ownership and sales philosophy is OLD school. Toxic culture in Australia with management being very defensive with some weird politics.

  7. Helpful (11)

    "A company in terminal decline - would not recommend joining"

    1.0
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    • Senior Management
    Current Employee - Senior Software Engineer in Sydney
    Doesn't Recommend
    Negative Outlook
    Disapproves of CEO

    I have been working at SAS Institute full-time for more than 5 years

    Pros

    SAS still has great products especially in the areas of risk and financial crimes. SAS has great expertise in truely operationalising and deploying models into production. This is often an underated capability.

    Cons

    Analytics has become commoditised and SAS can no longer charge premium prices. SAS has an out dated commercial structure. There is poor managment diversity and in country offices like Australia the culture is positively toxic and has very high turnover.

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  8. "Great place to work"

    3.0
    Current Employee - Marketing Administration 
    No Opinion of CEO

    I have been working at SAS Institute full-time for more than 5 years

    Pros

    Flexible working location, good staff benefits

    Cons

    Entrenched processes, not a lot of diversity

  9. Helpful (27)

    "Say Goodnight Jim (Pun Intended), SAS' Kodak Moment is Looming"

    1.0
    • Work/Life Balance
    • Culture & Values
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    • Compensation and Benefits
    • Senior Management
    Former Employee - Account Executive in Sydney
    Doesn't Recommend
    Negative Outlook
    Disapproves of CEO

    I worked at SAS Institute full-time for more than 3 years

    Pros

    The breadth of SAS's analytic capabilities, the size of the existing customer base and the Data for Good initiatives that assist the community.

    Cons

    In an advanced analytics market that analysts claim is growing by more than 30% YOY, SAS is falling behind with revenue growth of 1.25% in 2017, 0.93% in 2018. That’s likely to go negative in 2019 after the worst half year in SAS’s history. Internally, the company feels like it’s dying. Monopolies rarely foresee the end of their dominance and often assist in their own demise by burning customer bridges over the years. SAS is no different. Many C Level IT and Data Executives were once mid-level managers who experienced SAS’s vendor lock-in tactics and mediocre support. These individuals are now making sure they don’t get fooled again with concerted efforts to minimise the use of SAS’s proprietary language and tools within their organisations. In Australia this can be seen with the significant drop in the number of “Beacon Accounts” (SAS’s largest customers) in Banking and Utilities, as well as significant licensing losses in government and telecommunications over the past year. The differentiators that once made SAS the analytics company of choice have been whittled away by competitors and the open source community. Delays in the release of the long overdue SAS platform replacement called Viya provided the time competitors needed to close the capability gap. Viya is here now and it’s not that it’s bad – it’s just that after 4+ years in development, Viya still doesn’t have all the functionality of “old SAS” and frequently what was developed on “old SAS” (e.g. reports, dashboards and model projects) is not backwardly compatible. Not to mention, Viya’s hardware footprint is massive, which pushes SAS’s total cost of ownership beyond that of competitors. To stay current on SAS, customers are forced to rip and replace SAS for SAS and this has opened the door to more cost-effective and customer-friendly alternatives such as Python, R, Knime, Spark, Databricks, Tableau, Microsoft… The list goes on. Furthermore, SAS’s solutions in Risk, Fraud and Compliance have been frozen in time waiting on Viya with few, if any, upgrades for a number of years. When they eventually are made available on Viya, customers should expect to rip and replace their existing SAS solution making competitive solutions based open standards and not proprietary tools even more attractive. Monopolies are generally cash rich and thus happy places, but often lack quality management. The move for SAS into a non-monopolistic position can not only be seen in the fall in revenue growth but in employee satisfaction as well. SAS’s rankings in Fortune’s ‘100 Best Companies to Work For’ list has plummeted from 4th to 8th to 15th to 37th to 60th between 2015 and 2019. A simple forecast puts SAS out of the top 100 Great Places to work by 2021. In Australia, rumours abound about employees making complaints to HR regarding bullying and harassment by managers and directors where there was no action taken by the company and the employee left shortly after making their complaint. Good employees go first and at SAS there is an exodus, leaving behind those hanging on and hoping retirement comes before SAS’s doors close.

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  10. "Nice Place to work"

    4.0
    Current Employee - Anonymous Employee 

    I have been working at SAS Institute full-time

    Pros

    Work life balance and many other benefits apart from salary.

    Cons

    Working environment is not suitable for freshers

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