Work here while you look for a better job if you must - Litigation Assistant Lyon Law Employee Review

1.0
23 June 2019
Recommend
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Pros

Honestly the people you work with will make a world of difference at this place. If you like the coworkers and have a good rapport with them, it will make this unbearable job just a bit more bearable. Because tasks are always being assigned late and will usually be too much work for one person to reasonably do during the work day, you will more often than not rely on your coworkers to help you out so you won't be there until midnight. Friday lunch was nice sometimes, but it sucks that that is considered work place benefits. When Geoff isn't there the office feels nicer. The pay is actually pretty good if you don't think about the lack of benefits, so if you have to work here, take advantage of that. If you manage to figure things out, you will be pretty good with civil procedure which is a plus for law school.

Cons

I am not even sure where to start, so I will anchor this review to my own working timeline at Lyon Law. Before I spill the T on Lyon Law, I want to emphasize in all caps, DO NOT WORK HERE IF YOU CAN AVOID IT!!! Geoff does not train anyone. If you're lucky, there might be an assistant who has managed to be there long enough who can help you figure out what you actually need to do. If not, you will really only have the procedures handbook which honestly doesn't really make sense unless you have been there minimum 3 months since it is full of random abbreviations, blank sections with "tbd" written in them, and constant changes made by Geoff in an asinine effort to establish some sensical procedure. If you are looking for a job that will actually help you along in this professional development, skip this one. Geoff really doesn't care about you beyond your ability to do the tasks and continue the lining of his pockets. Ultimately, you are left with a woefully undertrained (and often understaffed) office. Geoff himself is a nightmare. He is a very manipulative boss who will be superficially nice to you when he needs you (e.g. when everyone quits because this place is extremely hostile and they found jobs that actually treat them well) and will make you feel like you might be part of a team, but don't be fooled! As soon as he hires enough people and increases the total employee population to at least 10, you will have less value than all the dollar menu parfaits he consumes. He may be a good lawyer (but I am in serious doubt of that) but he is a terrible manager. His instructions are always incomplete and wrong, so he is constantly changing them at the literal last minute. This caused so much wasted time where we had to re-do major, time consuming tasks 3-4 times. He also doesn't communicate case updates with anyone else, so you're constantly guessing what is actually happening in the case and you will most likely get your updates from Defense. Also, if you raise any of these concerns with Geoff (even if you include a suggestion as he compulsively requests of people), he will flat out ignore you and ice you out. As an assistant there will most likely be a time where you will either have no attorney or an attorney so incompetent you will wonder who is being let in to top 20 law schools. During these periods, Geoff pretty much has you acting as an attorney to a point that is probably not illegal, but definitely toes the line. He will try to get you to stay super late to write motions (don't do it) or work on MSJs and field all communications between the office and defense/clients. In my time at Lyon Law, I only spoke to 2 other legal assistants but all of the defense attorneys on my cases knew me by name, which says a lot about the professionalism of this office. Geoff refuses to talk to his clients or defense and more often than not they will probably begin hounding you for whatever answer they seek. No matter how many times you remind Geoff, he will manage to avoid them to the point where clients wonder if he has dropped their case and threaten to find alternative representation. Speaking of clients, Geoff genuinely does not care about any of them. As someone who clearly has empathy issues, Geoff will only laugh or smile when talking about the messed up things that happen to the clients. It is extremely disturbing and makes me upset to know that people who have gone through significant workplace trauma are being represented someone who deeply couldn't care an ounce about them. If you are the type of person who is about meeting deadlines, skip this place. You can send Geoff whatever documents are due weeks in advance and remind him for weeks to review and he will manage to let the deadline slip past. If you have worked in a law firm, you should know that court deadlines are important and missing them can seriously compromise a client's case so it is extremely stressful and concerning that this is a common occurrence in this office. This place has such a high turnover because it is a hostile environment. Coming to work in the morning was the lowest point of my day and it was 99% because I had to work for someone like Geoff. During my year at Lyon Law, I saw 14 people leave/get fired within the first 6 months of my employment. Geoff's hiring practices do not make sense and are predatory. He only wants to hire people who are from top universities and have high GPAs, while his firm does absolutely nothing to attract those types. Also, he tells his secretary to find people who don't live at home and have an air of desperation with regards to employment so he can trap them into staying for a long time. It says a lot that that instead of focusing on creating a working environment that people want to be in and building loyalty in a positive way, Geoff just preys on recent grads looking to not be homeless in this city. Also, I found out that Geoff would make employees write positive reviews on these websites for a law school recommendation. One employee he wrote a recommendation for was surprised to later find out that he uploaded a blank letter and later rescinded it in the middle of the application cycle, compromising their entire application to school. That is the type of person you are potentially signing up to work for. If you are a person of color or a woman, be prepared to work extremely hard with no recognition and being audited after one mistake. If you are a white man, Geoff probably won't say anything to you regarding hours or work performance unless someone else actively complains. For all of the above and more is why this place also has a terrible reputation in the Los Angeles legal community. I became actively embarrassed to tell people where I worked because when I said "Lyon Law", they immediately made a face and would say, "I am familiar with Geoff Lyon." I had to stay at this job for financial/timing reasons and absolutely hated that I had to be there for as long as I did. Luckily I have other lawyer mentors, or I probably would have been completely turned off from the legal field. Personally, I am treating this entire experience like a bad dream and will probably pretend that it never happened with respects to my work history for future employers.

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Lyon Law Response
3y
--The firm's substantial and increasing verdicts and settlements are a tribute to the vast majority of its outstanding Legal Assistants diligently providing excellence to the firm's clients - whom are the priority. • The firm trains its Legal Assistants by providing an extensive form file with templates, samples, and how-to instructions for virtually every document a Legal Assistant is asked to prepare. Every draft of every documents is reviewed and commented upon in writing by an attorney. After the Legal Assistant has done the same type of document about three times it becomes considerably more routine. Legal Assistants learn to prepare about 30 different documents so the first three months have a steep learning curve, but it can be done within about 45 hours of diligent work per week, and should be approached as one would a new class. • The firm has a contractor handling much of the repetitive bulk work to free Legal Assistants for tasks that are more interesting and add value, such as interviewing witnesses, drafting highly fact-specific document requests, drafting mediation briefs, and assisting trial preparation, including practicing direct and cross examination with the client, or displaying exhibits in the trial itself. • Successful Legal Assistants proceed with the understanding practicing law is a profession like practicing medicine or engineering passenger aircraft - but with the added dimension of being opposed by intelligent, determined adversaries. It requires grit and is not for everyone. It requires self-motivation, including when one’s supervising attorney is occupied in trial(s). Finding a position that matches one’s skill set and diligence is part of normal career progression. However, this firm provides an outstanding opportunity for those committed to becoming professionals. • Several of the firm’s Legal Assistants have gone on to Harvard and other ivy league law schools and the London School of Economics, with strong letters of recommendation from the firm. The firm maintains high professional standards. The firm has: • A board certified civil trial attorney; a certification held by approximately one tenth of one percent of California attorneys. • A “SuperLawyer” limited to the top 5% of employment discrimination attorneys in California, selected by Thomson-Reuters-Westlaw based in part on peer reviews. • Obtained verdicts and settlements totaling over $50 million, mostly in the last 10 years. It has four top 50 and two top 100 verdicts and settlements in discrimination cases in California or the United States since 2014. The firm did six jury trials in 2022 including a $1.2 million verdict for a one-year employee making less than $20 per hour.* • Obtained an average result per trial in the last 15 jury trials (2018-2022) of over $500,000. The firm’s average settlement 2020-2022 was just under $200,000; a 40% increase over the period 2017-2019.* • (*Note: Results depend on the unique facts of each case. The cited results exclude about 5% of the firm’s cases because they involved factors beyond the firm’s control, such as the defendant going out of business or a client medically unable to proceed.) • The firm has been doing trials in downtown Los Angeles and throughout California litigating against Fortune 500 firms for over 30 years. Attorney Lyon has done about 80 trials and arbitrations, over 3000 depositions and over 3000 court appearances, and has appeared in numerous state and all federal courts in California. • Although we are a trial firm, we win about half of all appeals, including on First Amendment free speech, the National Environmental Protection Act, whistleblower retaliation, etc. • Attorney Lyon is a board certified civil trial attorney, a SuperLawyer, has attended trial colleges put on by: Jerry Spence, NITA, CAALA, CELA, Trojan Horse and Trial Lawyers University. He previously worked for a nationwide law firm, taught legal writing at LSU Law School, clerked for judges on the United States Court of Appeals for the Eleventh Circuit (covering Florida, Alabama and Georgia), and the Idaho Supreme Court, including civil, criminal and death penalty cases, interned with the Minnesota Court of Appeals, was Student Director of the Federal Income Tax Clinic at the University of Minnesota Law School, and was previously a single and multi-engine, instrument and commercial flight instructor. • The firm has employed attorneys from Harvard, UCLA and other quality law schools. • The firm provides its Legal Assistants, typically graduates of top universities with top grades, with an immersive experience so they will have a complete understanding of what a civil litigator does before they go to law school, facilitating their informed decision-making about one’s career path, and becoming a professional.

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Cons

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Pros

Geoff Lyon does well at making money, which is good because that is the only thing he prioritizes and cares about. This can be seen firsthand in his responses to previous reviews citing how poor of a boss he is, where he feels the need to illustrate how financially successful he and his firm are before addressing any of the concerns that clearly exist with the way he operates.

Cons

Everything I could say has been said here by the numerous employees before me. I had no idea that Geoff Lyon required employees who wanted a letter of recommendation to write a positive Glassdoor review, but that makes absolute sense because that is exactly the kind of guy and boss that he is. The fact that he has recently started responding to these makes me believe that people have brought it up as an issue when getting hired for the firm, and I hope that it will inspire some change in Geoff because honestly, both the clients and the employees deserve better. However, given then fact that said response is merely the same thing copy and pasted on every single review, regardless of whether or not it is positive or negative, should reveal about how much effort Geoff will put in to anything that isn't directly correlated with making money. To anyone working here in the future, good luck, enjoy the experience of working in a legal position, and definitely know your worth.

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Lyon Law Response
3y
--The firm's substantial and growing verdicts and settlements are a tribute to the vast majority of its Legal Assistants providing quality work on behalf of the firm's clients, whom are the priority. The firm maintains high professional standards. The firm has: • A board certified civil trial attorney; a certification held by approximately one tenth of one percent of California attorneys. • A “SuperLawyer” limited to the top 5% of employment discrimination attorneys in California, selected by Thomson-Reuters-Westlaw based in part on peer reviews. • Obtained verdicts and settlements totaling over $50 million, mostly in the last 10 years. It has four top 50 and two top 100 verdicts and settlements in discrimination cases in California or the United States since 2014. The firm did six jury trials in 2022 including a $1.2 million verdict for a one-year employee making less than $20 per hour.* • Obtained an average result per trial in the last 15 jury trials (2018-2022) of over $500,000. The firm’s average settlement 2020-2022 was just under $200,000; a 40% increase over the period 2017-2019.* • (*Note: Results depend on the unique facts of each case. The cited results exclude about 5% of the firm’s cases because they involved factors beyond the firm’s control, such as the defendant going out of business or a client medically unable to proceed.) • The firm has been doing trials in downtown Los Angeles and throughout California litigating against Fortune 500 firms for over 30 years. Attorney Lyon has done about 80 trials and arbitrations, over 3000 depositions and over 3000 court appearances, and has appeared in numerous state and all federal courts in California. • Although we are a trial firm, we win about half of all appeals, including several published opinions on First Amendment free speech, the National Environmental Protection Act, etc. • Attorney Lyon is a board certified civil trial attorney, a SuperLawyer, has attended trial colleges put on by: Jerry Spence, NITA, CAALA, CELA, Trojan Horse and Trial Lawyers University. He previously worked for a nationwide law firm, taught legal writing at LSU Law School, clerked for judges on the United States Court of Appeals for the Eleventh Circuit (covering Florida, Alabama and Georgia), and the Idaho Supreme Court, including death penalty cases, interned with the Minnesota Court of Appeals, was Student Director of the Federal Income Tax Clinic at the University of Minnesota Law School, and was previously a single and multi-engine, instrument and commercial flight instructor. • The firm has employed attorneys from Harvard, UCLA and other quality law schools. • The firm provides its Legal Assistants, typically graduates of top universities with top grades, with an immersive experience so they will have a complete understanding of what a civil litigator does before they go to law school, facilitating their informed decision-making about one’s career path. • The firm trains its Legal Assistants by providing an extensive form file with templates, samples, and how-to instructions for virtually every document a Legal Assistant is asked to prepare. Every draft of every documents is reviewed and commented upon in writing by an attorney. After the Legal Assistant has done the same type of document about three times it becomes considerably more routine. Legal Assistants learn to prepare about 30 different documents so the first three months have a steep learning curve, but it can be done within about 45 hours of diligent work per week, and should be approached as one would a new class. • The firm has a contractor handling much of the repetitive bulk work to free Legal Assistants for tasks that are more interesting and add value, such as interviewing witnesses, drafting highly fact-specific document requests, drafting mediation briefs, and assisting trial preparation, including practicing direct and cross examination with the client, or displaying exhibits in the trial itself. • Successful Legal Assistants proceed with the understanding practicing law is a profession like practicing medicine or engineering passenger aircraft - but with the added dimension of being opposed by intelligent, determined adversaries. It requires grit and is not for everyone. It requires self-motivation, including when one’s supervising attorney is occupied in trial(s). Finding a position that matches one’s skill set and diligence is part of normal career progression. However, this firm provides an outstanding opportunity for those committed to becoming professionals. • Several of the firm’s Legal Assistants have gone on to Harvard and other ivy league law schools and the London School of Economics, with strong letters of recommendation from the firm. However if a legal assistant chills while their supervising attorney is occupied with six jury trials in nine months, an employer with a more even pace may be a better fit.
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