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Paramilitary organization that has no respect for its employees, let alone its customers - Mail Carrier US Postal Service Employee Review

1.0
29 Aug 2014
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Pros

When I first started working as a mail carrier more than 10 years ago, the job was pretty good. I worked maybe half-time (which was fine at the time as it was only to be a temporary job) and pretty flexible (though the more you were available to work, the more hours you were actually offered). Training was a bit sparse, but there was an effort on the part of management to see that trainees learned the ropes before being inundated with a full workload. I became a regular carrier in less than a year, because at the time there was a tech boom: fewer qualified applicants & high mail volume (letters & magazines). Carriers would spend the first 1/3 of the day in the office (usually til 11am) putting their mail for the day in order ("casing"). The pay is a set rate that increases with seniority, which is fairly good for some areas of the country, but for Silicon Valley is well under state & city employees pay rates (for comparable positions), though it is better than the service sector (but it is worse than UPS). There were options to move to other locations & up within the organization, but over time these have become fewer & more difficult to actually do. Carriers used to be able to relocate to a different area and retain their seniority, but now management has made that all but impossible. In order to move now one must start all over again from the bottom, which means working odd & long hours (not regular set hours that come with seniority, which becomes more difficult if you're older). Having union representation provides some wage & job security, however this too has declined over the years as the union has become overwhelmed by handling basic issues (firings & harassment), it has dropped the ball on ensuring that employees are informed about their rights & how to do the job properly as well as notifying management about other issues (safety, preventing on the job injuries, etc.). I've come to enjoy working outdoors & being mobile throughout the day and if it the job was still what it was & I was left alone to do it, then I would still be a happy camper, however the past decade has brought on too many cons:

Cons

-Work load for those who actually work, is determined by computer and micromanaged from up top. District Managers order supervisors at local offices how much work to give carriers regardless of how much time things really take to do because their job evaluation depends on it. Local supervisors in turn bully mail carriers to work more than is humanly possible. Managment that thinks outside the box is axed, move to a quiet little town somewhere where they won't be noticed, retire or find a job somewhere that actually values innovation & intelligence. -those who can't do their job (too overweight, injured or some other medical reason) or don't want to are the ones who go on to become supervisors & into the upper reaches of management. -those employees who are smart, don't go into management because iUSPS does not provide proper training for managers, makes them work well beyond 40 hr. work week for their salary (which means that supervisors make less per hour than mail carriers or mail handlers and they have no job security. Because they have no training & unrealistic (target goals set by computer to eek out the most amount of work from as few people as possible), they resort to bullying employees in to skipping breaks & lunch, running their routes & doing many unsafe practices. -the few people are both respectfful of employees, customer service oriented & intelligent end up getting bullied/harassed themselves and usually retire as soon as they can or because they have talent, leave for places with better pay/lower cost of living & that actually respect their employees. -Pay is not enough to afford a house or even a new car in SF Bay area and rent eats up half of your take home pay (and that's for a seasoned regular carrier, it's worse if you're starting out). -USPS used to be an EEO, there was a developmentally disabled employee in my office & for a period the new applicants were diverse by age, race and gender (which wasn't the case until more recently). But now, all the new hires (CCAs) are young, some of them don't even look old enough to have a driver's license. The objective now is to hire as many expendable employees who have little work experience & use them as much as possible and get rid of them when they're no longer needed (and yes, the unions gave complete consent to this arrangement without objection, which just goes to show you how little you get for the union dues deducted from your paycheck). -In my 15 years I have gone out of my way on numerous occasions for managment (delivering on other routes etc.), I have only ever been thanked for something once, and that was over 5 years ago. -In contrast, I have been called into the office numerous times, about things like "time wasting practices", for 1/2 hour to an hour over things that consume less than 5 minutes of time. -I do my job as I'm supposed to, including taking my 2x10 minute breaks & 1/2 hour for lunch (using my breaks to stretch), but that has only earned me the ire of management & countless hours of managers following my every move on the street (at how much cost?), because the route in fact took 1/2 hour more than their computer projection (but exactly as long as I had predicted while in the office before being bullied into saying that I might be able to make it in less). -Resentment from CCA's because they don't know how to do their job correctly, don't know their rights & responsibilities (performing job safely). -See your route increase in size over the years because of fewer letters & magazines, but then go inundated with more parcels because you signed up Ebayers & businesss to use USPS and then get continual harassment from supervisors because it takes longer & management doesn't provide you the equipment to properly do the job (ie I'd need a UPS size truck to adequately accommodate the # of parcels I now pick up). -USPS doesn't provide you with the basic tools to even do your job properly. I was issued one mail carrier bag 15 years ago, which is shredding to pieces, continuously falling off my shoulder. Despite requesting a new one for the past 5 years & odd assurances that I would get one, I have yet to see it (managers usually end up cobbling together bits from old castaways). -USPS has shifted human resources away from local office into centralized, bureaucratic structure which now requires you to log on to the internet & submit tons of paperwork (which you have to do on your own time as you don't have access while at work) -USPS does not make any accommodations if you have a family. Forget taking kids to school, caring for a sick parent, etc. you can still have a doctor's note stating that you can't physically work more than 8 hrs a day, 40 hours a week from injuries sustained on the job & management will still order you to work 10 hour days/50+ hour weeks. -Because USPS is a quasi government agency, there is no accountability & the Department of Labor does nothing to curb USPS clearly illegal labor practices. -To sum USPS is run like the military (most likely because so many employees are from the military), the more incompetent you are, the further up pyramid you will go. If you want to learn more about USPS, just read Catch-22 by Joseph Heller.

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Pros

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Cons

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Pros

First: In this economy? The pay. New carriers start out at $15,30/hr and (even though your orientation leader may so you're not guaranteed 40 hrs/week) you will get a monstrous amount of overtime. Once you're past your first couple of months and you understand how to carry mail properly you will often work from 8a-6p nearly every day. Also with a few cities, like mine, you will work on Sundays for Amazon. This usually adds an additional 5 hours to the paycheck. Myself and other CCA's in the station work between 51-64 hours a week. Secondly: You are your own boss for the most part. You will spend 1-2 hours a day in the office between receiving and casing your magazines and any left over letters that the machine didn't sort out. Once you've been in past the 90 day probationary period you are eligible to "hold down" an open route. If you are lucky enough to get a good long term hold (the regular is gone for injury or some other reason) you will learn how to case routes very quickly. Third: Fitness. There's a lot of people who want to lose weight out there. I weighed 235 lbs when I first started working for the post office and now I weight 180. I lost 50 lbs in the first 3 months alone. It's all exercise though. You can diet if you want, but remember you'll need energy to walk those long routes. Fourth: Coworkers. Yea, there are turds in every environment, but most of the career employees there are really pulling for you to succeed. Most carriers in my station are former military and a lot of them have been friends for decades. Being a CCA myself, I was worried about how well I'd fit in with some of the grizzled older carriers but they accepted me right away.

Cons

So where to begin. Well remember when I talked about working all that overtime in the Pros section? It's not optional. You will be expected to be at work every day of the week, including Sundays, unless you have a decent management staff. During the Christmas season I once worked for 53 days straight without an off day. We had new CCA's get hired and quit within weeks. Have a family? Tough luck. You will get to see them from 6:30pm till they go to sleep. Sundays you will likely get off work around 1-2pm. Management is mostly compromised of people who are former carriers or clerks, which is nice because they promote from withing, but the devastating caveat to this is that most of them are uneducated persons. A fair amount of carriers start when they're in their late teens and early twenties and come from jobs that were minimum wage or did not require them to have any kind of leadership training. The managers don't care about the welfare of the employees mental status until it's too late, and most of them tend to act like they were never carriers at all by expecting completely ridiculous things from the CCA's and some career carriers. It's not unusual for a carrier to be given a 2 hr "assist" in addition to whatever their main route is. While most carriers can get this done without much issue, for a new carrier or even an experience carrier on a bad weather day, it can become very stressful mentally. The threat of being fired is incredibly annoying as a CCA. If you call off sick, if you need to have a personal day, if you even need to pick your kids up from school because your wife got stuck late at the office, a manager will pull you aside and remind you of how expendable you are. The Paid Time Off (PTO) you accrue will come very quickly, and you'll soon realize you have 40 hours and would like a nice little vacation.. too bad you can't take it. As a CCA you're expected to work 360 days a year and then you get 5 days off as a reward and a massive paycheck AFTER your 5 days off. Now you can use that fat cash to...uhhh.. buy something I guess? Certainly would have been more useful if I got it before the 5 day period to use on my vacation. While the career carriers are really great to deal with usually, the fellow CCA's can become very competitive. Often times if you're given an assist and it's better than another CCA's assist who has "seniority" over you they will complain to other carriers and management that they should have gotten the "good" assist. This is one of the fatal flaws that new people with struggle with. No matter how much faster you are, no matter how much more accurate you are, no matter what, everyone gets promoted by time with the post office. This leads to a lot of carriers just doing the bare minimum and putting the excess on other CCA's or carriers. The final con (that I'll write about) is that the weather sucks. I know carriers who have been delivering mail for 20+ years and they still can't deal with the rain, the snow, or the heat. The heat is the biggest killer for carriers by far though. If you're in an area that suffers from hot, muggy summers, get ready to consume gallons of water every day, and sweat that out (often onto your customers mail). The worst is when it rains on a hot summer day and then evaporates right off your clothing. Makes you feel like a walking sauna.

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