Packback Reviews

3.5

64% would recommend to a friend

(98 total reviews)
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Mike Shannon and Kelsey Behringer

80% approve of CEO

57% positive business outlook

Packback has an employee rating of 3.5 out of 5 stars, based on 98 company reviews on Glassdoor which indicates that most employees have a good working experience there. The Packback employee rating is in line with the average (within 1 standard deviation) for employers within the Education industry (3.7 stars).

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98 reviews
1.0
17 Aug 2019
Recommend
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Pros

-There are lots of fantastic and super talented people that work here. Many folks have hidden talents and this is an environment that I'd say that lends encouragement and support to those that want to showcase them. -If you're a dog person then you'd probably love Pepper. She's quiet, yet sassy and, at least in my opinion, a tad spoiled, especially ever since the company grew in size. She loves to be petted and rubbed. But she's very sweet and well behaved. -If you're lucky you'll be able to learn a lot and diversify your skill set. -Relaxed dress code -The new office is in a really nice location in the Loop. It's also really cute, lots of art, meeting rooms are named after subjects and it's all just very on brand. Team happy hours occurred pretty regularly and there's plenty good places to eat near the office. -I really loved and believed in the product. I do think it is a hard sell but I genuinely believe it has the potential to make a positive impact on education.

Cons

The existing negative reviews from years ago and recently are pretty accurate so I'll try not to be too repetitive. But here are what I perceived as pretty major cons from my perspective: -The benefits are mediocre. Compensation is low (at least from my end it was for the type of work I was doing. I know that there were a few people in non-technical roles making more than me and that was pretty disappointing). If you’re an SC you will have to wait a pretty long time to get your commission. They deliberately avoid telling you that when you’re interviewing. I know this because many new SCs would complain about it. Most people there are underpaid but they’ll try to make you feel good about it by emphasizing “culture”, hosting happy hours or giving shout outs in Slack and 15five. I think if you're fresh out of college then this is fine. But if you’re someone that cares about building a solid foundation for yourself and your family, this isn’t going to cut it. Packback is a place where you will have to be content with doing A LOT for very little. If you're not, the higher ups aren't going to appreciate or respect you. -I loved the product and believe it has tremendous potential…but I don’t think the business model is sustainable. There’s just too much hand holding required on our part to land the sale and also retain their business. The platform is built to be self-serving yet we have to do everything for the customer, and many of the operational responsibilities fall on less than a handful of people (I was one of them), which makes the margin for error high and also places a lot of stress on the person/people doing the work. Leadership preaches about efficiency and having an investors mindset but the business model directly contradicts that. -Change is inevitable in any startup and being flexible is important....but here it just seems confusing and rocky. The largest department in the company, sales, was performing the worst and it’s mostly because there was no solid strategy....yet it’s the employees that pay the price and not sales leadership. -Turnover is extremely high and they try to make it seem like it's perfectly normal but it is not. Many people didn’t even want to be there because of how unstable it is. It’s kind of ironic given how often leadership wanted to initiate conversations about what’s so special about Packback at just about every company-wide gathering. Sure, they will “grow” by hiring more people (particularly in sales), but they don’t know how to actually retain them. -There’s not much room for career growth outside of management here, especially if you’re in sales. Not many people want to go into management and would rather focus on their own career growth so I figure that’s worth mentioning. Another unfortunate thing about that is people that are very inexperienced end up in leadership positions they should not be in. Few have been able to transition out of sales into account management from what I saw in my time there but even that role is becoming more sales focused. Packback is a very sales oriented culture in general, which I didn’t care for since that’s not the type of work I did. If you’re looking for opportunities outside of sales then I’d recommend looking elsewhere. -This shouldn’t have to be said but don’t get too comfortable and share anything personal, or bother being too honest with leadership. For one, they don’t really care (unless you’re legit friends with them) and two, say anything that challenges their ego and they will do everything they can to protect themselves and get rid of you. Reveal anything personal and they will just use it against you. I realize a lot of what I’m saying here is pretty harsh and I may be perceived as a disgruntled former employee. I can assure you I’m not. This is just my truth from my experience. I actually wanted to see Packback become bigger than what it is probably more than most but there was no way I was going to make it without fully compromising my peace of mind and mental health. The dysfunction and nepotism became too much to ignore and that made it difficult to trust people and their motives. I can’t recommend working here unless there is a significant change in the leadership team, especially on the executive level. They have extremely high expectations but will offer you very little in return ( I'm referring to compensation AND professional development.) I’ve never felt more defeated, discouraged and disrespected in a work environment than when I was here. If you do still work here and you’re thinking about leaving, be “radically kind” to yourself. Don’t sell yourselves short when there are other companies out here that will do their part in making sure you feel respected/valued without just paying lip service and pennies for your efforts.

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Packback Response
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Thank you for taking the time to provide this kind feedback; we take your message to heart and brought this post into discussion as a management team as soon as we saw this (which, I apologize, came a week late as I just today received my Glassdoor weekly digest). It's clear that our time together did not reach the intention we sought at the beginning, and for that I am very sorry. We wish you the absolute best in your career. My primary hope is that, in reflecting upon the challenges we faced together in tackling an incredibly difficult (yet important!) educational mission through the vehicle of a tough-to-build company business model, the experience will have provided the same meaningful growth fuel for you as I know it has for me. The balancing act between providing meaningful financial & personal development growth for employees, executing a sustainable business model, and providing an affordable pricing point to college students nationwide, is no small feat. With your feedback as a contributing data point, we'll continue to strive towards the optimal balance (it's a fascinating strategy game!). ...With regards to critical thought placed into business decisions, I/we take your feedback seriously. In the interest of transparency, I do want to confirm that this company is operated under thorough financial, strategic, and ethical governance by our industry-esteemed Board of Directors. The Board of Directors meets every other month, six times per year, to thoroughly analyze & discuss company decisions in a nearly all day meeting. Furthermore, over the next week I'll personally be engaged in two all-day 10 hour offsite strategy meetings for both our Executive and Revenue Management teams. These management sessions conclude our company wide "Objectives & Key Results" planning, which begins at the individual team-member input level, builds up into intra-department dialogues, and is summarized + continually revisited at our Weekly All Hands. I say this simply for clarification of the diligence process currently in place; a foundation on which we will improve with the help of your kind feedback here. ...I'm sincerely sorry, and upset with myself, that your time alongside the journey with us left you with a bad taste. As is our company character, we will learn and grow from this. Thank you for your Radical Kindness, and for your continued belief in the Packback Questions platform. No doubt you joined Packback to further the mission of "Awakening & fueling the lifelong curiosity in every student", so I'm saddened to know that I failed you as a leader in our personal dynamic. I could not agree more with your reflection on the Packback team-at-large; we are SO blessed to have AMAZING & talented team members here - truly incredible folks who I'm grateful to be surrounded & humbled by each day. ... Should you be open to a coffee catch-up, or a phone call sometime, I'd like to extend a warm invitation to chat. I can be reached at Mike@Packback.co. Thank you.
2.0
7 June 2017

Inexperienced management

Anonymous employee
Recommend
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Pros

Great coworkers Flexible & remote hours No dress code

Cons

If you like pretending to be happy, this is a great place to work. Packback is a great example of the nonsense that plagues the startup world. Managers are inexperienced, sensitive, and charismatic. The latter is not a compliment. There is no appreciation of employees on a personal level even though it is preached often. No birthday cards! There is an overwhelming conversation buzzing at all times that the values and culture are "not just posters on the wall." The "active" culture requires (literally requires, as a job performance indicator) you to repeat the values verbatim in shout outs at least once weekly. You're encouraged to do it once per meeting. Speaking of job performance, they do not value performance unless it is used against you to remove you for personal reasons. Again, sensitive. I've seen it plenty of times. I see people who work their buns off and get no respect from leadership, and people who get praised for taking a 3 hour dump. Even though they "stress" how important their employees are, there is no support, no truth to the repeated claim that they want to help you with your career goals, and no consideration of getting an HR resource when it is clearly needed. When met with the very opposition they "encourage" to give everyone a chance at leadership, the ideas are inevitably shot down, followed by a tendency to hide new ideas from those who opposed them. One of many ways the leadership at this company is childish. They will probably disagree if they read this, but actions always speak louder than words. Lastly, they step too far into your personal life and make you feel guilty if you keep your personal life personal. If you want to come to work at Packback, you have to participate in the culture. Be prepared.

1.0
13 Oct 2020

Dysfunctional Company

Recommend
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Pros

Packback is an innovative concept and has the potential to really change higher education Office environment seemed to have a really laid-back feel Other employees are friendly, welcoming, and helpful at first

Cons

The platform doesn't exactly function how we were told to lead professors to believe. I was specifically instructed to skirt many issues and limitations with the platform when speaking to professors. Very unprofessional behavior at times, not at all appropriate for an office. Many employees have inappropriate personal relationships with other employees and are held to different standards as a result. Another SC on my team was close friends with our manager and not at all held to the same performance metrics compared to others on our team. There are large disparities in terms of how territories were assigned. This was a recurring issue across multiple sales cycles. I brought this up to my manager and other leadership and was shut down, even though I presented concrete evidence based the number of enrolled students and maximum potential earnings Turnover was extremely high. Based on my estimate, it is over 50% The day to day procedures of the company are completely insufficient. It was difficult to get even the simplest things done because there weren't many procedures in place. The leadership team is severely under-qualified for the roles they have given themselves. Even in the startup world, there is a reason that individuals with less than 10 years of career experience aren't hired to be the CEO, CFO, CPO, etc. The way the company operates both day-to-day and on a larger scale reflects a total lack of experience and maturity, which is to be expected for a company that has been built by individuals completely deficient in real-world work experience. They haven't earned these roles and creating other meaningless leadership roles only worsens the issue. The strategies for how to reach professors were inadequate. There is no commitment to meaningful diversity. The vast majority of the company is made up of the same type of person and those who don't fit that mold are made to feel unwelcome and seem to have the shortest tenure at the company in general. The people who talk about how great the culture is are part of this group. The only people who get career growth or advancement opportunities are part of this group. With the disparities that exist in the education field, academia, and tech, it's just disappointing to see it perpetuated here.

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