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3.8

67% would recommend to a friend

(93 total reviews)

Barry Schwarz

91% approve of CEO

83% positive business outlook

Trillium Trading has an employee rating of 3.8 out of 5 stars, based on 93 company reviews on Glassdoor which indicates that most employees have a good working experience there. The Trillium Trading employee rating is in line with the average (within 1 standard deviation) for employers within the Finance industry (3.7 stars).

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93 reviews
4.0
11 Jan 2015
Recommend
CEO approval
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Pros

The pros to working here are many and varied. The firm's commitment to technology and programming development over the past 10 years (and counting) have put Trillium at the forefront of all prop trading firms in terms of trading technology and order execution. Their IT/programming guys are absolute masters with the capability to make absolutely any suggestion from the traders a reality with minimal turnaround time. To management's credit, the firm takes these suggestions seriously and implements as many as they can. This "open ear" works for the benefit of everyone and creates value add far beyond what would be possible in a top-down management strategy alone. To that end, management doesn't just interact with the traders on a superficial level; they genuinely care about each trader's success and will do whatever they can to put everyone in a position to succeed. I have seen some comments that suggest otherwise, but my personal experience was that when I had a rough month or two, our HR manager would call me in to discuss what was going on and try to find out if there was anything he could do to help me improve. Granted, I was a profitable trader fairly early on and I put in the effort on my end, but the feel of those meetings was never that I was on the edge of being fired. It was always a "what can we do to help?" assessment of what was and wasn't working for me. Even the most introspective person could use an outside opinion or two, and as prop trading is a career that relies substantially on self-reflection and observation, those meetings were crucial in helping right the ship for me. Beyond the technology and the management, the culture of the firm is fantastic. The traders are genuinely a great group of guys with a wide variety of backgrounds. The environment, although competitive, is definitely collaborative and everyone is usually willing to explain their trading style and help give pointers to junior guys. In the early days, this advice from senior traders proves invaluable to a new trader who has an infinite amount of new information to process and no idea how to sort or prioritize it. The office environment itself is unlike anything you will find in a so-called "high finance" career on Wall Street -- t-shirts, sweatpants, shorts, and flip flops abound on the trading floor. Likewise, the lifestyle this job provides blows anything else in this industry out of the water. If you want to leave at 4:00:01 pm, you can. You will never work a weekend unless you decide it's beneficial to come in and put in some extra time (lots of younger guys do this, but it's not required). This is not a face-time job where you have to leave your suit jacket on your chair just so your MD knows you're around. And unlike some IBD or S&T groups at the banks, everyone here is friends and genuinely enjoys each other's company. My takeaway from this job was it taught me the true meaning of being a self-starter: autonomous hard work, honest self-criticism, and the ability to create opportunities to better yourself out of mistakes that you make. I never had to work hard to get As in college or get great performance reviews in other jobs, but here you truly have no one to answer to but yourself. No one is going to make you stay late to learn the keystrokes or to study up on binary events coming up that will move markets. No one is going to tell you what you should have done in a specific trade or what you need to do better the next time (with the exception of your trainer, who is immensely helpful; I should note that the training itself is excellent and certainly positions all junior traders to succeed). The only way you see results here is through your own genuine hard work, and that for me was an incredibly important learning experience that will stick with me throughout my career.

Cons

The cons are more or less what you would expect from a career in prop trading, and although important to consider, are less reflective of the way the company is run and more so the industry itself. The first and most obvious is that there are no exit opportunities for a failed junior trader. The transferable skill set is minimal if it exists at all. There are plenty of experiences prior to becoming a prop trader that will make you a better trader; there are few experiences as a prop trader that will make you better at something else. This is a risk you should understand and seriously consider before taking a position at a prop trading firm. It has little to do with Trillium itself -- it is just a reality of the industry. Another con in the long term is the industry itself. The space has become orders of magnitude more competitive in just the last few years, and will continue to become exponentially more crowded as HFT and algo trading volume increases. I have to believe that at some point human prop traders will become obsolete. Whether that happens in five years or 50 depends on innumerable factors, but it is an eventuality for the profession. So, if you are a junior or senior in college right now, you have to think about what will happen to the industry itself. You might find that after a few years you're the #1 trader at the firm, but at some point even that person may not be able to make money. I think one con specific to Trillium would be the intense focus on risk parameters for trainees. I understand the need for risk management with younger traders, as everyone trades with real firm capital from day 1, but I think the tight lockouts (-$150 in one day to start) make it tough to take the risks initially that you need to take to become a better trader. Some new guys come in and just bleed money from the instant they touch the keys and then leave after 6 months. I didn't -- I respected my limits and I always traded with them in mind, but because they were so tight, it took me a lot longer to catch on and get those basic experiences under my belt. Again, it's something that needs to be in place, but while it protects the firm from some traders, it also limits the upside from others who are more cautious and risk management-minded.

1.0
22 July 2013
Recommend
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Pros

-You can make money here. some single digit % of the firm makes money that is worthwhile. -It is the best of the lower-tier day-trading firms due to technology. -Independence. No risk-management or oversight. -Full disclosure: I made money here, I probably performed on the top 10% of the firm, and I still thought this place was a waste of time. Try to go to banking or derivative market-making instead. Avoid equity-only prop firms. They probably are not in your best interest.

Cons

-No instruction. No training. Any training they provide is insufficient to help you succeed. Training is literally a joke. You won't learning anything about sustainable edges, math, stats, market structure. It is impossible for you to transition post-Trillium and it is probably the management's intention to make it that way. -Management that is deadweight. There exists management that is just there to take a % of your profit, they don't trade. Nepotism runs high, and it's a discouraging environment. Not a true meritocracy unfortunately. -Best traders do not share information. They are probably right for doing so. Edges are small, quick, and it's best not to share. Non-collaborative environment. -No Phds or real portfolio managers. You will just be short-term trading equity and nothing more. The environment is one that prides itself on arrogance, short-sightedness, and it's unfortunate. -0 job prospects from here if you fail. Tarnished resume if you fail since the company has had legal troubles in the past with the FBI. Google "Trillium trading FBI" -Edge will erode with time most likely. -You can make money perhaps, but at what cost? -A supposed "star" trader once told me that all he did was martingale position as it goes down (if it goes down, double down). He got fired and is an idiot, but made money. That's essentially the mindset a lot of ex-traders and current managers have here. No talent, no understanding of math, no intention on exploring new edges. -Advice to future and potential employees: the best industry in finance to be in is venture capital and PE. Take a path that leads you there i.e. banking or investment management. Avoid day-trading shops that charge fees even if they do not require capital contribution; their incentives are against you.

5.0
5 Aug 2014
Recommend
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Pros

Trillium Trading is a great place to work! After reading the many posts on this site I thought it was important to provide a potential new hire with positive insight from a Trillium trader who has worked here for many years and not from some disgruntled former employees. Here are some of my thoughts. Trillium Trading continuously invests in its technology. It prides itself on hiring top programmers to build out proprietary software based on trader feedback and recommendations. This is a continual process to give their traders any advantage to make money It has no formal dress code so usually after your first year of trading you can wear shorts in the summer and jeans in the winter. I disagree with the poster that claimed day trading is not a viable career. If your career choice is the pursuit of money and as much as you are able to make then I don’t think there is a better place to do it. Trillium pays a salary to their trainees and then has a commission structure. Ultimately, if you are successful you will continue to make a higher percentage of your profits. You are given the tools to succeed. First year traders are assigned to a trainer after their first week of orientation with the Director of H.R. Trainers are experienced traders who sit next to their trainees for a minimum of a year. They are expected to review their trading as well as their trainees trading daily. As long as the trainee works hard and listens to their trainer they are not let go. In my years here I have seen Trillium gives trainees way more than enough time to succeed (sometimes too much time hoping that they will turn it around).

Cons

Unlike a big bank Trillium has a laid back atmosphere. Each trader is expected to be self motivated to succeed. Although your trainer is watching over you, you are ultimately responsible and the one who make the trades. You are placed with your trainer and do not get to chose. But every trainer will encourage you to go out and talk to other experienced traders. The end result is that you can’t be shy. Overall most traders will share information. But you need to go and ask for it. It will not be handed to you. You have a limited career path. Your career is ultimately about making money and it’s the top priority of every trader. But if you want more responsibility, your only career path is to become a trainer. If after a few years of successful trading you want to train someone you may be given the opportunity. Successful trainers usually are given more trainees each year.

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