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Brave Thinking Institute

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Brave Thinking Institute Reviews

3.0

46% would recommend to a friend

(95 total reviews)
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John Boggs

50% approve of CEO

46% positive business outlook

Brave Thinking Institute has an employee rating of 3.0 out of 5 stars, based on 95 company reviews on Glassdoor which indicates that most employees have an average working experience there. The Brave Thinking Institute employee rating is in line with the average (within 1 standard deviation) for employers within the Education industry (3.7 stars).

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95 reviews
1.0
3 July 2019
Recommend
CEO approval
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Pros

Working in other departments here, people seem happy.

Cons

DO NOT WORK IN SALES ROLE HERE. This is the only department I am speaking to since that is where I worked. I'm sure other roles and reviews from those folks are truly happy. Who wouldn't be when getting paid a set income and believing you are changing people's lives for the better? But, this is not you in a sales role. You are paid 100% commission and they have nothing to lose by hiring you. (Side note, do not let them pressure you in leaving your employer with a 2-3 day notice because you may very well need that job you disliked after realizing you made a mistake.) It can be so easy to ignore a "negative" review when we want to believe the others the company solicits to bury (notice date of when they're written) and to think it's just one disgruntled past employee who was not very good at what they did or just had some sort of personality clash. I get it. I wanted to believe the job ad too since it sounded SO GOOD!!! It's a dream job and meant to be, right!? They pray on that hope and people's naïveté. I wish I trusted the reviews I saw on here from last year when I was in your position of doing my homework. 11 people on a team of 20 left over last 2.5 months and this isn't new. This is how long it takes before the average person catches on that they're being baited with a "6 figure" job and empty promises with making barely minimum wage. My opinion aside, super high turnover speaks for itself and like I shared, I'm coming from an extensive sales background also having managed myself and staff, working from home and being the top sales representative in a similar role for a different company. I've also run my own 6 figure business that started from the ground up and sold. Previous to that, I was part of the few that get into medical and pharmaceutical sales. First, why do you think they spent so much money on that hiring video? Because they want to oversell a "work from home" situation and get in front of as many hopeful and disgruntled sales folks who don't mind working for 100% commission as they can with the hope that YOU will make it there. And, that others just weren't as good as you are. This company has zero financial risk in lying to you since you don't make any money until you make them money. Not writing this would weigh on my conscience which is the only reason I'm doing so. If I can save just one person from working for this awful sales management who loses absolutely nothing by lying to you in their job ad, it's served it's purpose. Most importantly, know the character of the people managing you. Upper management loves them and actually embraces this behavior below. After only one month working here, in June 2019, I witnessed one of the long standing managers relentlessly shame one of our newest team members after she asked some questions in a team meeting where they asked for feedback on how we could improve our sales results since they were having a very bad month. Again, she was simply asking questions because they asked for input. My co-worker was shamed and embarrassed, so much so that she had to run off screen to cry. Later in that meeting, the manager leading it, shared to all of us that "you don't want to see how upset I can get!" Over what? Your sh*t show appt setting results which you take no responsibility for but blame an entire team for...people you trained to "trust the process" when you told them exactly what to do when doing the job? Weird. When I reported this disturbing behavior and treatment to our team to upper management, he shared he saw nothing wrong with what occurred and wished me luck in seeing eye to eye with a future employer. This is a company that literally loses nothing when lying to you in an ad and to you in your interview and bringing you on. They have no remorse either since this appears to be their norm. They say they value "integrity" and have you repeat all their 5 "core values" every single day in some weird robotic way at the beginning of meeting but then they don't honor. They expect a very high turnover since they want to get you to work for them for FREE for 1-3 months until you can't handle not making any money. When you go to them sharing how it's not adding up to the "great job" they tell you are doing, they use woo-woo coaching tactics by telling you "your results are a direct correlation to your thinking." When you ask for a model of how to create the 6 figure (heck even minimum wage living...beyond $5/hr) for the 50 hours you'll be working, including Saturdays, they will tell you there is no model except that so and so is doing it but what they don't tell you are these 6 figure examples are folks who are getting the leads that they presort to folks with tenure. New folks like you get the leads they call "Channel 3 and 4"....folks who have indicated they have no money and are not ready to buy anything after talking with you for 6-12 months and have zero idea who Mary Morrissey is or that the program is $30,000 that you're going to try to sell them in one call. WHY THEIR NEW "COLD TRAFFIC" SALES FUNNEL YOU ARE PART OF IN THEIR TRYING TO GROW DOESN'T WORK? This is how it works. Companies love generating leads of any quality so they can eventually sell those leads at various stages on a product after building a relationship but you are part of the "outside sales team." Not the "inside sales team" that gets those leads LMI has built a relationship with over time or previously bought something....anything. So what they do to create a sort of click bait and the "endless amount of leads" they'll tell you they have (not true) is create a 1.) Facebook ad creating misleading message about "Becoming a Life Coach" and their $497 "Dream Builder" program. 2.) Prospect is invited to set appt for Strategy Session 3.) Company labels that prospect with label for Channel 1-4 depending on how they answered on their ability and willingness to buy undisclosed cost of program. 4.) You, Senior Program Expert, in a 100% commission sales role then try to sell a $30k program in one shot, often with very few to no installment options depending on time of year. 5.) Lead asks why they saw $497 on ad? You are told you'll have an "inside" sales person follow up with them to discuss that program. These aren't all the ads, obviously, but an example of tactics they use to manipulate lead...and you. Notice the theme. 99.9% I spoke to had no idea who Mary Morrissey was and the cost of the program when setting up the appt. Many companies are running these new sales cold traffic webinar type sales funnels hoping to make a quick buck and they do...but at your expense and willingness to tolerate. You will work for free and make nowhere near what they promise in their job ad because they can barely fill their calendars. So you sit around all day waiting for an appt and are lucky if you have 1-2 possible calls a day to close on this mystery one call close $30k program. Do your homework and understand sales funnels and how they work. The job ad is showing example of 2 people, literally, that worked there before this "cold traffic" funnel was created and financially benefit from you coming on board because they get a cut of your commission...hence, the recent review. Again, you've been warned that they will not be honest with you in interview since I was extremely thorough when doing so with my questions and they lied to me multiple times. Best to you!

1.0
19 Dec 2017

Dishonest and disappointing

Anonymous employee
Recommend
CEO approval
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Pros

Excellent opportunity for access to learning materials and some great co-workers.

Cons

I expected more from LMI and LifeSOULutions. I’ve seen the dishonest behavior across multiple departments and it’s incredibly concerning. Consider that the latest 5 star reviews here on this site have all come within a 3 day time period... bribing your employees to leave 5 Star reviews is questionable behavior. For any person considering a position here, I would highly encourage you to be very stringent in your research of the company. I would encourage you to google “prophet of profit” and ask why the Mary morrissey website has this has a keyword on there website. The company is too worried about profit it seems to care about people. It’s unfortunate.

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Brave Thinking Institute Response
8y
I am not sure what experience you had that invoked this feeling about profit being the primary motivating factor, but as a current employee, you are encouraged to empower yourself by talking this over with your Manager or HR. Mary Morrissey nor the Management of the company would want any employee feeling as though their work is not genuine, and it would be interesting to learn how this occurred so it may be improved.
1.0
18 Jan 2021
Recommend
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Pros

There are no pros or positives here.

Cons

There are far too many to list, but first of all please do not be fooled by the 5 star reviews they have. Most of the 5 star reviews are written by management (the family) to hide all of the real negative reviews. Seriously run as fast as you can from them. Life Mastery Institute, or whatever they're calling themselves now, is one big scam. They lure you in with the promise of an extremely generous salary (I was offered 6 figures) and the promise of growth bonuses. What they don't tell you is that they strongly encourage (basically force) you to take various paid "executive leadership" courses. One of these courses was over $12,000 for one year. When I explained to management that I was uncomfortable with this, they told me that all of their most successful employees took them and if I wasn't comfortable I wouldn't be a good fit for their "culture". Guess I'm not a good fit because I don't think it's ethical or right to do this. Seems that others feel the same way because with the exception of the family members turnover here is extremely high.

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Brave Thinking Institute Response
5y
We respect everyone's right to form and voice their opinion as we do this feedback posted here. I do want to respond by going through the facts as I am not sure where some of the statements came from? First, I am the Director of Operations and Human Resources and can attest that only 2 of the reviews are from family members - all the rest of the reviews are from non-family members. I also want to make it clear that we do not ask anyone to "pay" to take any courses - EVER. These are provided free of charge. The company provides a weekly lesson in personal development principles and then we have a mastermind weekly where we share gold nuggets from the lesson as a team-building exercise. No one is "forced" to join these. Everyone on my team and others have commented on how grateful they are that our Company invests 2 hours a week in paid time for our own personal development which is unique as most people who work for other companies have to pay for personal development courses and do this in their off hours outside of work. It is true that one of our Core Values is Integrity. We live what we teach and deliver what we promise. Therefore if someone is not interested in personal development it will be challenging to stay in alignment with the Company's mission - and to work with our Marketing team. Believing in the product is an important aspect to be able to Market successfully. In terms of our company's turnover rate it is well below the national average. I personally have worked for the Institute for seven years and I love what I do and the difference we are making in the world.
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