- really chaotic, leadership and org structure are always changing - really old processes including data systems and HR policies. Example: they didn't have paid maternity/paternity leave till 2022, just before a key leader became a parent - company hasn't been profitable for the past 5+ years - lot of internal politics, ego, and in-fighting - chaotic culture - a handful of top leaders are great, hardworking, and smart, but a lot of the company is lazy, doesn't want to do job, or does things really inefficiently / chaotically - pay, benefits, and healthcare suck