WMTS - Tax Associate PwC Employee Review

1.0
3 Feb 2017
Recommend
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Pros

The first couple of promotions are pretty well defined. Not much in terms of surprises. You don't need to be a CPA to advance. Become an enrolled agent, work for 6 years, and you are now a manager. Hurray! If you like moderate travel, you do get to visit clients and have training opportunities in other cities. I would say you travel about twice a year if you are an associate that is visiting clients and doing the PwC tax training. You will probably make some new friends through your shared animosity toward other people. Some of the interns can really give you a good laugh when you're having a crappy day/week/month. Men and women get the exact same pay. So when you're arguing against your feminist friend about the pay-gap being nonexistent you have a great example to use.

Cons

Coming in, they tell you the way things are through rose colored glasses. It is dishonest at best. They do the same thing after every tax season. Telling you fairy tales of endless new hires and system improvements. They are understaffed, yet somehow will find a way to be even further understaffed next year. The partners try to validate the staffing levels by noting that everybody is still taking their vacation days. That's probably more of a reflection of how little everyone cares about getting their work done. If you stay for too long(3+ years), you get trapped. You only have WMTS knowledge, which is pretty specific. You won't be able to find another tax job for similar pay, because you've now been promoted. So you either leave and take a pay cut, or stay and continue a miserable life. Or you can go to EY to do the exact same miserable thing. They will tell you that you are expected to work 300 hours of overtime during tax season and that this is figured into your pay. So if your salary is 50k, you really make about 43k before overtime. Except you actually work more like 500 hours of overtime. So you now make 40k before overtime. For the amount of stress - and it's a lot - I don't think it's worth it. Dealing with the client and beneficiaries sucks. There's no other way to put it. The people that you work with will complain endlessly about everything. "The catering isn't healthy. We can't eat tacos every night." So they hire new caterers with a focus on healthier options. "The food is so bland. They never have any good food. I want something cheesy." The same people complain when ordering out, which is rude because they are essentially complaining about their coworkers. Order your own damn food if you don't want what we're having! If you're on an engagement that hasn't ventured into 2009 yet, you have to print everything. Like all else, the printers suck. So you become a low level mechanic during your time working in WMTS. You also develop some mad stapling skills. On the other hand, your intern probably can't staple six pages together so you have to use your mad stapling skills more often than you'd prefer. Did I mention that summers are no better than the winter? You don't work the same hours, but you find yourself being just as busy. This is when a lot of people are quitting so you have to handle more than your usual account load. The type of work is also a lot less motivating. I would much rather spend my time cranking out tax returns than doing data projects. Don't get me wrong, they need done, but my point is that it's no picnic working in WMTS over the summer. Pam Morse.

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Pros

There is a lot about the firm that is great. It is a great culture that values collaboration (below the partner level), that truly values diversity of its employees, and that is very collegial. The Advisory business has grown significantly over the past 5 years since reconstituting a consulting arm with the acquisition of BearingPoint, followed by other large acquisitions of PRTM, Diamond and most recently Booz & Company (Strategy& - which is, actually, a dumb name for a company that garners eye rolls and open chuckling among the staff). The firm has also made smaller tuck in acquisitions as well to fill in small, but important strategic capabilities such as Ants Eye View (for social marketing, social media strategy, and social listening), and BGT (for digital marketing agency work). It is a place where you can build a great career if you can deliver great work, excel at networking across the firm, and can build partner support. Exceptional employees are the "average" here, so if you aren't knocking it out of the park all the time then you can expect to only be rated in the middle of the pack, and receive nominal raises and performance bonuses. It has a strong brand in the market. The firm's latest brand health index rated it at the top of the other "big 4" firms (Deloitte, KPMG, and EY) as well as other non-audit/tax firms like Accenture. The Strategy& acquisition added significant strategy consulting capability to position PwC to compete with the likes of BCG, Bain & McKenzie (who have little to no post strategy execution capabilities...meaning they are good at telling you what to do, but aren't really able to stick around to help you do it). Bob Moritz (Senior Partner) and Miles Everson (Advisory Leader) are great leaders who do a good job at inspiring staff to provide great, differentiating client service. They are personable, approachable, and genuine (if they are not, then they deserve an Oscar for their performances - oh, wait, we audit the Oscars...maybe a Tony then). They have a strong vision for how we will shift the firm to a global operating model over the next few years (today, we are a collection of member firms with each territory representing its own firm structure) which will enable us to better serve our clients, most of which operate globally today. All in all, it is a place that I am proud to work at.

Cons

As noted by many, and as inferred by by comment around individual performance above, if you want to get ahead here you WILL work your rears off. Late nights and weekends, with minimal complaining, are the norm for those who are successful. The firm has tried to add in concepts of "flexibility" into our work force - but that is generally ignored in practice by those people actually delivering client work (great thought, poor execution). I know that many complain about what they see as the professional equivalent of "sweat shop rates" when it comes to compensation - but I honestly think that is over blown. Sure everyone would love to make more money, but you can make 6 figures as a Senior Associate and almost $300K as a Director PLUS bonus...so, to me, the pay issue falls on deaf ears. The one area that I think we could really improve on is in the area of our 401K matching percentage which is currently $0.25 on the dollar up to 6% of your contribution. Many of our industry clients match dollar for dollar, so quarter for dollar is a bit of a slap in the face. The technology that we use as practioners, for the most part, is terrible with the exception of some of our new web enabled tools for pricing engagements and managing engagement economics. For the last few years there have been many hints and encouragements that we would be replacing the much hated Lotus Notes (that's right boys and girls, we are still using the best of 1990s technology for email and calendaring). There was a great deal of excitement and buzz in the firm - until we were told that we would not be moving to the standard...Microsoft Outlook. Instead - we are "Going Google". So, not only are we replacing one terrible system with another, we are not actually getting rid of Lotus Notes at all because 1) the Federal practice can't use gMail (the Feds won't certify the security of gMail's cloud) 2) certain accounts (like Microsoft) won't allow the use of Google products (Microsoft was so angry that they lost the replacement of Lotus Notes that we almost completely lost the account), and 3) the rest of the global firm won't be switching. So we will be having to manage two separate email accounts and will be forced to use the terrible Google Docs over what everyone else in the world uses and likes - Microsoft Office. Why did we select Google, one might ask. The answer varies based on who you ask. Some say it is because Google's cloud based tools will allow us to work in ways that we can't today for collaborating on the creation of documents and through Google's "Hang Outs"...this is ridiculous because Google's user experience is horrible (else, Microsoft would be losing market share to them in spades), and Microsoft already has the standard for collaboration through Link and Jive. Some say it is because Google's cloud based services provide a lower total ownership cost - which is also ridiculous because Microsoft has Office 365 available through the cloud with Azure. Some say it is because our technology isn't cool which is impacting our ability to attract talent on campus - which is the most ridiculous reason of all because who really joins a company because they can have a gMail account? Also, I'm honestly not sure how we will be expected to use these fabulous tools in an offline capacity when we don't have internet connectivity (such as on a plane that is not equipped with WiFi). The firm is also replacing its current performance management system (and process for handing out annual performance ratings and subsequent merit increases and performance bonuses) with a new system called the PwC Professional. Basically, they are replacing a tried and true system of documenting written performance feedback (which is good for not only developing people but also for serving as a record of what people don't do well in the event an adverse action needs to be taken against an employee) with a mobile app that captures a rating against five dimensions and which replaces written feedback with oral feedback that has no memory and no record. The "coach" who used to be responsible for representing their "coachees" at the Annual Review Committee time now has almost no role in the performance outcome of their staff displaced by the "relationship partner" who has responsibility now to personally know each and every staff member that they represent so that they can represent them to the other partner only "performance roundtable" discussions. Partners today have very little time for junior staff, let alone demonstrated interest in their individual careers. So now, a process that was cumbersome but was overly fair (you could only talk about things during ARC time that were documented - if it wasn't documented it was if it never happened and you had at least one person who knew you and advocated for you in the room when your performance was being discussed in the form of your Coach) and very transparent is being replaced with the equivalent of a papal conclave supported by a popularity contest. Additionally, this mobile app (Performance Snapshots), only requires commentary if a staff member is not meeting expectations or is partially meeting expectations...so if you are meeting expectations you can't even comment on performance unless you are highlighting a performance differentiator that they only expect less than 50% of staff to have. Lazy reviewers are incentivized through the design of the app to give everyone a meets expectations on all five dimensions and move on. Our attrition rate has been very low for a professional services firm - it will be interesting to see what happens to attrition after the next round of annual reviews using the new PwC Professional.

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